Back in 2008, I began this blog and, as happens, people began to read it and comment on what I had to say. Especially through enquiry (as was - now it's called discernment), I found the support and encouragement of those who had 'gone before' me exceptionally useful. I know that part of the process can be very isolating, as we really think about our callings, our faith, our lives etc, etc. Knowing that what I was thinking and feeling wasn't unusual let me know I was not alone.
Among those who supported me, since almost the beginning, is Nikki, who I met in person at one of those 'candidate socials' before uni begins. In the 4 years since then, she has been a fount of wisdom and support. I hope I have been able to reciprocate. It's my privilege to call her friend.
(When 4 probationers are together at 1 table, at the social after wards, this is not necessarily a good thing. I think most of the laughter came for our table! Not helped by someone saying 'oh, there's another one bites the bust...')
So, I was delighted to attend Nikki's ordination on Wednesday. It was a great night, where Nikki became Rev Dr Nikki. She'll be a brilliant minister.
You're great Nikki. Really, you are.
PS You must take time off. We will get on to you about this. Really, we will.
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Sunday, 2 November 2014
Sunday, 15 June 2014
An interesting day
This has been an interesting day, with a range of churches involved.
But it began with me cycling from Spot's placement kirk to a church in the big city's centre. The minister there was minister of the church I grew up in and, at a recent funeral, invited those of us who he met to come along anytime. As the law of the sods would have it, he was away, but the person taking the service I knew (far too small a pond this church thing is becoming!).
The welcome on the door was good - warm and friendly. And the service was good, but it being a visiting minister, how it would be on a 'normal' Sunday is hard to tell (even the organist was visiting!.
After the service, being the sort of person who needs to ensure they don't get blood in their caffeine system, and according to my custom and habit, I stayed for a cuppa. The tea was nice and there were busy tables in animated conversation, but I landed up sitting on my own. Someone did come over to talk, but had to head off to deal with treasurer stuff, so I finished my cuppa and left.
What I was struck by was how, as an outsider, yet someone who's fairly comfortable in church, I struggled there. Not with the worship, but the inclusion in fellowship. And, given the area this church is in, I was also surprised just how few people were there - it's not like it's holiday time.
But that wasn't the only church service I attended today - I also had the privilege to attend the ordination of a friend to the Scottish Episcopal church. There were three people being dome by the bishop, though a lot of robes for all concerned to wear - I felt roasting just watching. And LOADS of incense. In so many ways, I felt there was a bit of time travelling back to the pre-reformation church, but that's just me!
A couple of things really surprised me about the service. Firstly, the small number of people from New College who have studied and talked and journeyed with Shona. There's this candidates' association which is open to all training for a recognised ministry in any church who are studying at New College. One of its aims is to forge relationships of support with one another. I know some are unavailable for many reasons, but wonder if the 'lack' of support (to my eyes anyway) was due to it not being CofS?
The other thing which struck me was how un-freaked out I was not only by supporting Shona in her ordination, but seeing her in a clerical collar. It may be in the Kirk, the way ordination is done is so very different, that I didn't get that sense of 'oh poo, that'll be me soon', but I think it's also because I am much more 'okay' with it. I'll see if that's the case (God willing) later this year, when some Kirk candidates are ordained.
Definitely an interesting day.
But it began with me cycling from Spot's placement kirk to a church in the big city's centre. The minister there was minister of the church I grew up in and, at a recent funeral, invited those of us who he met to come along anytime. As the law of the sods would have it, he was away, but the person taking the service I knew (far too small a pond this church thing is becoming!).
The welcome on the door was good - warm and friendly. And the service was good, but it being a visiting minister, how it would be on a 'normal' Sunday is hard to tell (even the organist was visiting!.
After the service, being the sort of person who needs to ensure they don't get blood in their caffeine system, and according to my custom and habit, I stayed for a cuppa. The tea was nice and there were busy tables in animated conversation, but I landed up sitting on my own. Someone did come over to talk, but had to head off to deal with treasurer stuff, so I finished my cuppa and left.
What I was struck by was how, as an outsider, yet someone who's fairly comfortable in church, I struggled there. Not with the worship, but the inclusion in fellowship. And, given the area this church is in, I was also surprised just how few people were there - it's not like it's holiday time.
But that wasn't the only church service I attended today - I also had the privilege to attend the ordination of a friend to the Scottish Episcopal church. There were three people being dome by the bishop, though a lot of robes for all concerned to wear - I felt roasting just watching. And LOADS of incense. In so many ways, I felt there was a bit of time travelling back to the pre-reformation church, but that's just me!
A couple of things really surprised me about the service. Firstly, the small number of people from New College who have studied and talked and journeyed with Shona. There's this candidates' association which is open to all training for a recognised ministry in any church who are studying at New College. One of its aims is to forge relationships of support with one another. I know some are unavailable for many reasons, but wonder if the 'lack' of support (to my eyes anyway) was due to it not being CofS?
The other thing which struck me was how un-freaked out I was not only by supporting Shona in her ordination, but seeing her in a clerical collar. It may be in the Kirk, the way ordination is done is so very different, that I didn't get that sense of 'oh poo, that'll be me soon', but I think it's also because I am much more 'okay' with it. I'll see if that's the case (God willing) later this year, when some Kirk candidates are ordained.
Definitely an interesting day.
Monday, 4 June 2012
Ordination - what happens?
I am now at Highland Cathedral and am aware I need, to a certain extent, hit the ground running. Though full-time, rather than part-time as Eagleside was, it's only 10 weeks, so a totally different dynamic.
It's early days, but it's a friendly congregation, with many people involved in the running of the church and the outreach program they are involved in. It was good to have sincere welcome yesterday, with many leaving the church yesterday specifically welcoming me to Highland Cathedral.
Today my supervisor, who has a much, much different approach to my past one was asking what I ordination is. Well, I sort of mentioned something about a setting apart, but also there being some sort of mystery, but to be honest, I didn't really know. So, what is ordination for - what does that do to the person being ordained that hasn't already been done? Or it is a symbol of a recognition of the gifts and calling they already have. I was thinking of scripture and realised when people were called by God, they were generally sent to get on with it, with no ordination taking place, though priest were (among others) anointed.
It's got me thinking and I'm glad of that. It's not something which has come up before and I know it's important I develop my understanding of what it is. That said, I was brought up with the whole thing that ministers are no different from anyone else and all Christians have their own unique calling from God and ministry is just one of many, many of them.
So, what do others think? It would be interesting to get some ideas to begin developing my own thoughts.
It's early days, but it's a friendly congregation, with many people involved in the running of the church and the outreach program they are involved in. It was good to have sincere welcome yesterday, with many leaving the church yesterday specifically welcoming me to Highland Cathedral.
Today my supervisor, who has a much, much different approach to my past one was asking what I ordination is. Well, I sort of mentioned something about a setting apart, but also there being some sort of mystery, but to be honest, I didn't really know. So, what is ordination for - what does that do to the person being ordained that hasn't already been done? Or it is a symbol of a recognition of the gifts and calling they already have. I was thinking of scripture and realised when people were called by God, they were generally sent to get on with it, with no ordination taking place, though priest were (among others) anointed.
It's got me thinking and I'm glad of that. It's not something which has come up before and I know it's important I develop my understanding of what it is. That said, I was brought up with the whole thing that ministers are no different from anyone else and all Christians have their own unique calling from God and ministry is just one of many, many of them.
So, what do others think? It would be interesting to get some ideas to begin developing my own thoughts.
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